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作者karakuri (StY)
看板outdoorgear
標題台灣本土戶外品牌討論
時間Sat Jun 22 14:41:58 2019

台灣本土品牌
我大概穿過
jackwolfskin(台灣飛狼) 的外套
monutneer(山林) 的 Cordura長褲
wildland(荒野) 長褲
polarstar(桃源戶外自有品牌) 長褲

其實發現台灣自有品牌的機能性
以及布料都相當的不錯
不過有些款式的剪裁似乎有點奇怪
像我的腰圍大概29腰
不過穿上本土品牌有些款式的
s號m號長褲(皆為該款式最小size)
屁股以及褲管感覺都非常的寬大
跟國外的服飾剪裁比起來
往往都會沒有精神.俐落的感覺
不是說國外的月亮比較圓
可是這就是事實

原本想說如果是1000元以下的款式就算了
不過後來發現
有些褲子甚至1500甚至在2000元上下
而且還是MIT製
還是有這種情況發生
都會覺得有點可惜
如果是這個價格區間
那大家一定會選擇國外品牌阿
明明台灣有那麼好的機能布料
如果剪裁能夠再進步一點就好了…

有沒有本土戶外品牌的掛
這個版似乎很少有關本土品牌的文章
希望有人也能討論一下本土品牌
然後也希望台灣本土品牌能夠再進步一些

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推 Roow: 覺得外型設計可以再加油一點，試穿感覺比較老氣 06/22 15:00
推 nauclear: 這些都是要長時間設計經驗、文化經驗來累積的，台灣老 06/22 15:32
→ nauclear: 闆喜歡賺快錢，不願承受虧損來積累能量…相反的國外很多 06/22 15:32
→ nauclear: 知名品牌都是上一代從小作坊開始一步一腳印的 06/22 15:32
→ batatas: 台灣的問題幾乎都在版型 感覺都是歐美版型 06/22 18:16
推 hcwang1126: 就不意外 飛狼也算走日線模示 但沒特別為亞洲人設計的 06/22 18:47
→ hcwang1126: 樣子 06/22 18:47
推 dododoremi: 06/22 18:51
→ dododoremi: 這不知道什麼牌 中山北路買的 06/22 18:51
→ dododoremi: 尺寸L我181穿還會拖地 06/22 18:51
推 hcwang1126: 然後我要控訴飛狼的被子品質很差 06/22 18:57
→ hcwang1126: 便宜材質也ok 但縫線大量脫落到會殺人的地步 06/22 18:58
→ hcwang1126: 那些脫落的縫線 小小孩很容易纏繞在脖子上 06/22 18:59
→ zvestax: 06/22 19:06
→ zvestax: 臺灣紡織的布料，其實都不輸， 06/22 19:06
→ zvestax: 真的就差在設計跟品牌了 06/22 19:06
推 peteryao: 100mountain算嗎 06/22 19:22
推 Wickl: 外型不是最好抄襲的嗎... 06/22 21:37
推 gmoz: 版上被推坑過hakers的褲子 蠻不錯穿的 06/22 21:54
推 LoneWolf1436: Mt jade 跟織宇新創我覺得不錯 06/22 22:17
推 LLika: 樓上買到至少十年以上的貨？ 06/22 22:36
推 knanda: 飛狼被我也有 公司跟團購買 便宜又溫暖 上面的買到大地雷? 06/22 23:15
推 knanda: 拓荒者的機能衣便宜好穿 山頂鳥的緊身褲不錯 折扣時超值 06/22 23:20
→ karakuri: 其實我覺得台灣飛狼不錯 06/22 23:22
→ karakuri: 也有感覺在進步 06/22 23:22
→ karakuri: 要不然以前買的電腦後背包 06/22 23:22
→ karakuri: 感覺外型設計有點太老 06/22 23:22
→ karakuri: 跟背負重量有點弱… 06/22 23:22
→ karakuri: 然後也有感覺配色有開始要走年輕風了 06/22 23:22
→ karakuri: 只是外套版型感覺對瘦子撐不太起來 06/22 23:22
→ knanda: 好奇城市綠洲自有品牌adisi的衣褲有人買過嗎？ 06/22 23:22
推 viconis: 紡織科系路過 問題出在教育 台灣服裝設計系不會教機能服 06/22 23:39
→ viconis: 飾打版 也沒有老師懂 自然不會有戶外服飾設計的專才 歐 06/22 23:39
→ viconis: 美都有專門戶外服裝設計科系 出國唸的留在國外比較有錢途 06/22 23:39
→ viconis: 因為台灣大部分戶外服飾品牌背後是布料或成衣廠 以代工 06/22 23:39
→ viconis: 起家 自然不會看重做服飾品牌 資源放不夠多也是主因 06/22 23:39
推 okmn: 衣力美，褲子都蠻好穿的 06/22 23:55
→ karakuri: 感謝viconis大解說 06/23 00:13
→ karakuri: 因為總覺得台灣的布料真的很強 06/23 00:13
→ karakuri: 如果再配上好的剪裁 06/23 00:13
→ karakuri: 一定會很有競爭力！ 06/23 00:13
→ karakuri: 因為台灣本土品牌面對這麼多的國際品牌 06/23 00:13
→ karakuri: 真的很難作對抗 06/23 00:13
推 baker31: 朋友服裝設計師，她說有的廠因為老闆喜歡打高爾夫，所以 06/23 00:16
→ baker31: 機能服就只做老闆喜歡的類型 06/23 00:16
→ karakuri: 然後我台中人 06/23 00:21
→ karakuri: 自己推一下我自己覺得不錯的 06/23 00:21
→ karakuri: 比較常去桃源戶外(polarstar) 06/23 00:21
→ karakuri: 背包跟衣服褲子下殺的時候 06/23 00:21
→ karakuri: 比迪卡儂還超值許多 06/23 00:21
→ karakuri: 然後還有幾年前去東海飛狼(橋登羽毛) 06/23 00:21
→ karakuri: 買的Drywettex長袖排汗衣 06/23 00:21
→ karakuri: 到了現在還是我出勤率最高的排汗衣 06/23 00:21
→ karakuri: 真的排汗能力很優秀！ 06/23 00:21
→ karakuri: 然後也很喜歡東海飛狼的環境 06/23 00:21
推 hiwi: 城市綠洲很不錯！買過外套 06/23 00:52
推 sukyfish: 因為台灣戶外盤大部分消費力是在40歲以上，他們大多喜歡 06/23 01:12
→ sukyfish: 褲襠深一點、高腰一點的款式，穿起來比較舒服，有些反而 06/23 01:12
→ sukyfish: 穿進口會覺得卡卡的，太低 06/23 01:12
→ sukyfish: 其實荒野這幾年一直有往年輕化走，可以到門市多試試看 06/23 01:15
推 tingiy: 推32樓 專業 06/23 12:03
推 together1090: 宏遠的幸福臺灣有人穿過嗎？ 06/23 16:29
推 knanda: 樓上我有兩件他們的刷毛軟殼褲 防潑水效果佳 打版很老… 06/23 16:58
→ knanda: 我都拿來冬天上班穿 保暖防風防小雨 但透氣度未知 06/23 16:58
推 deerdriver: 幸福台灣的褲子還不差 只是縫線有點弱 排汗襯衫算耐 06/23 17:07
→ deerdriver: 操 06/23 17:07
推 BrightKiller: 推個本土品牌 06/23 18:31
推 hcwang1126: 06/23 20:33
→ hcwang1126: 脫線的情況到處都是 這已經是我拿剪刀處理過的 06/23 20:35
→ hcwang1126: 那一格一格是用來固定填充物的 06/23 20:35
→ hcwang1126: 連被子都有辦法作成這樣 orz 06/23 20:36
→ hcwang1126: 我想就材質價錢對了 沒想到還是雷 兩件都是 06/23 20:37
→ hcwang1126: 神奇的是 這線很難扯斷 一定要出動剪刀 06/23 20:39
→ hcwang1126: 如果像圖上小小的我就不理了 但他可以長到把頭套進去 06/23 20:41
推 hcwang1126: 台灣很多厲害的作仿 表帶 包包世界有名 06/23 20:46
推 geneaven: 本土品牌就真的不是設計不好就是價錢不好,板橋車站一樓 06/23 20:46
→ hcwang1126: 連常幫我改衣服的阿嫲都比爛本土廠好一百倍 06/23 20:47
→ geneaven: Hakers逛一逛,旁邊Columbia逛一逛,嗯...還是找C大好了 06/23 20:48
推 knanda: 樓上未免太悲劇 讓我拿出 06/23 20:49
→ knanda: 自己的飛狼仔細檢查 都沒脫線而且當初只花980 XD 06/23 20:49
推 hcwang1126: 我的也差不多價錢 但貌似出問題的是涼被 06/23 20:51
→ geneaven: Hakers外套不行,褲子上個月特賣挖一些便宜舊款還不錯 06/23 20:51
→ knanda: C牌臺灣價錢超級不可愛，上次在米國凹類特直接掃貨250鎂 06/23 20:52
推 hcwang1126: 然後最近版上找人試的本土品牌 06/23 20:54
→ hcwang1126: 價錢和功能 型 都沒辦法打動我 06/23 20:55
→ hcwang1126: 但想說 終於有人想搞 就還是要給點姆礪 06/23 20:56
→ hcwang1126: 但以雨衣來說 montbell的超輕量的windstop 更便宜又更 06/23 20:57
→ hcwang1126: 透氣 06/23 20:57
→ hcwang1126: 還用了自家的一塊布技術 減少縫線和貼合的必要!? 更生 06/23 20:59
→ hcwang1126: 火 06/23 20:59
推 knanda: 覺得本土牌還有個問題是很多官網官方照片都不是我想要的照 06/23 21:01
→ knanda: 片 一些細節沒拍到 比較像傳統型錄形象照 問題是我網上買 06/23 21:01
→ knanda: 衣服需要細節正面背面照片評估 還有布料材質的行銷應都要 06/23 21:01
→ knanda: 多做強調 以微笑台灣為例 三四年前買他的軟殼褲 覺得超值 06/23 21:01
→ knanda: 穿二年縫線也沒滲水 可是當時官網什麼防潑水或是係數都沒 06/23 21:01
→ knanda: 標清楚 怎麼好說服人網上購買 06/23 21:02
推 geneaven: 台廠沒幾家Goretex有標示pro或paclite的,反正店員也只會 06/23 21:06
推 hcwang1126: 我們作研發 常說 自己的問題 很可能全世界一定有人也 06/23 21:06
→ hcwang1126: 遇到 可以從這去發想 很多歐美的牌子 也是這樣搞起來 06/23 21:06
→ hcwang1126: 的 06/23 21:07
→ geneaven: 說這個是Goretex多好用叭啦叭啦,再來就都不會了 06/23 21:07
推 knanda: 最近是有改善不少 但這些廠商的網路行銷還是有進步空間 06/23 21:10
→ geneaven: 台灣消費者也被養成只會認狗鐵,Hakers出過event外套,在 06/23 21:14
→ geneaven: 想逛街的婆婆媽媽想幫小孩看登山外套時怎麼接受有東西跟 06/23 21:15
→ geneaven: 狗鐵賣差不多價錢XD 06/23 21:15
推 knanda: 是說gfun自己布料防水透濕皆10000的外套有人買過嗎？好奇 06/23 21:29
推 andyeddy: h大的本土VS montbell那段跟我想法一樣 06/23 22:44
→ andyeddy: 本土牌需要牡蠣拜託也賣便宜點... 06/23 22:45
→ andyeddy: gfun這種等級賣那種價格... 06/23 22:49
→ eineFrage: 本土品牌真的是技能樹點歪......分一點給打版會好很多 06/23 23:59
推 JeremyC1984: 歐美外銷才是主力 國內零售是順便賣 所以版型河河 06/24 02:20
推 robin781105: hakers的褲子對瘦的人比較不友善，S尺寸的適用腰圍就 06/24 07:08
→ robin781105: 36-38了...(但是型是好看的) 06/24 07:08
推 billlushana1: 現在凹豆王美那麼多，台廠分一點技能去設計行銷，不 06/24 07:13
→ billlushana1: 然老氣買不下 06/24 07:13
→ karakuri: hcwang1126 跟 andyeddy大 06/24 11:09
→ karakuri: 那段台灣本土品牌 vs mont-bell跟我想法也一樣 06/24 11:09
→ karakuri: 話說有人有kawas Lamo 外套的使用心得嗎 06/24 11:09
推 hcwang1126: 中國的牌子好像還更多更便宜 06/24 12:11
推 aka: 真的是差在設計跟行銷，你看日本TNF紫標跟columbia黑標， 06/24 12:30
→ aka: 也不是規格取勝，但是賣很貴還是有人買單 XD 06/24 12:30
推 asuslover: 台灣飛狼的設計師傳的是始祖鳥的衣服... 06/24 13:21
→ asuslover: *穿的是 06/24 13:21
→ godchildtw: 不管國內國外品牌，我都只能買女裝或童裝，28腰 06/24 14:49
→ karakuri: 我 175cm 28腰 穿狐狸褲44號就蠻剛好的 06/24 15:11
→ karakuri: 不過男穿女裝褲襠不會緊緊的嗎？ 06/24 15:11
推 hcwang1126: 拉鏈開口可能比較小(誤 女用比較有折扣 但型 06/24 19:05
推 chou2: Kawa 募資到貨 穿了兩個多月，覺得平日當雨衣還不錯，不會 06/24 22:38
→ chou2: 濕到內層，輕巧而且非常快乾，但晴天穿不住，陰雨天還行。 06/24 22:38
→ chou2: 百岳穿的話雨天還沒真正遇到，但覺得會有點抖～～ 06/24 22:38
→ magiclamp: 有一件荒野輕羽絨 身體偏寬大 袖子窄短~~~ 06/25 01:17
推 dodo111888: 山頂鳥歐督那GTX外套的價錢都可以買代購始祖鳥了XD 06/25 16:19
→ Cain: 等等，Jack WolfSkin 不是德國牌嗎？怎麼變台灣本土牌了？ 06/25 16:23
→ karakuri: 有台灣飛狼 跟 德國飛狼哦 06/25 18:36
→ karakuri: 網路上好像有兩間創辦人的關係 06/25 18:36
推 hcwang1126: 飛狼在德國是名牌 慕尼黑看到有夠貴 06/25 20:33
推 kobt: 不過這兩個牌子的英文好像是一樣!?德國飛狼的登山包不知如何 06/25 22:13
推 xhung: 城市X洲就品質還可以 只是這幾年價格一直漲 不太划算... 06/26 10:49
推 sulaeric: 哈克士 我非常喜歡。防水風衣還比一般的摩托車雨衣實惠 06/26 13:32
→ sulaeric: 。其他褲子 排汗衣 保暖衣 都不會讓人失望。再推一次 06/26 13:32
推 frice: Adisi的布料 容易起毛球 又不耐磨 06/26 16:42
→ frice: 一樣國產Wildland品質好多了 06/26 16:43
推 mhhe04: 哈克士褲子大推 我瘦的穿起來還ok捏 06/26 18:37
推 Deltaguita: 我今天出門上下都是荒野，舒適 06/26 19:37
→ batatas: polestar的內褲版型 是我看過最差的之一 06/26 23:28
推 madcat09: karakuri 你的身材跟我一樣（握~） 06/27 08:01
推 icanbe: 比較年輕化的自由品牌有的就走群募跟網路行銷了，口碑就等 06/27 09:48
→ icanbe: 其他人回饋。 06/27 09:48
推 pb220708: go hiking有人試過嗎？ 06/28 12:53
推 knanda: gohoking我買過，但是是買他們代理的品牌 06/28 13:31
推 xkiller1900: 幸福臺灣讚，我的長褲很多都他家的，冬夏穿上山都好 06/29 22:29
→ xkiller1900: 用，排水排汗也快，過溪濕掉也快乾 06/29 22:29
→ xkiller1900: 上山探勘都穿這個，唯一缺點是口袋拉鍊不太好 06/29 22:30
推 zxc0312: montbell 價錢便宜衣料又讚 cp值超高 07/06 10:19






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